Lost my baby this monday. pls help me understand!!

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Re: Lost my baby this monday. pls help me understand!!

Postby jwhampton » Tue Nov 01, 2016 04:02 pm

Howdy! I'm so sorry to hear about your early loss, I can understand how gut-wrenching it is to try so hard and lose him entirely too soon.

I've got a couple of questions that may help to shape the answers I can point you to. I'm sorry if they're overwhelming or grate over a raw patch. Feel free to breathe and take as much time as you need answering.

You mentioned that at 12 weeks, your blood pressure was at 145/85-was that within the range of your normal or was it elevated from your normal?

If it was elevated above your normal pressure, then there's a possibility you are what's considered an "unmasked chronic hypertensive"-the invasive placenta helpfully uncovered a genetic tendency towards chronic hypertension that may ordinarily have shown up later in life.

Preeclampsia is likely coming down to an immune mediated rejection of the invasive part of the placenta. The invasive part reads as foreign because it is coded by your partner's donation and something about the negotiation process between your partner and your immune system triggers your immune system to interpret the implantation of the placenta as something not-friendly. The risks of developing preeclampsia are higher in ART (assisted reproductive therapy), and it may have something to do with the underlying reason for needing the ART. The risks are also elevated in a first pregnancy, which it sounds like this may have been.

The positive news is that you may find it easier to conceive a second time, because a pregnancy remodels uterine arteries and that remodelling hangs around for a bit; a subsequent pregnancy may be able to take advantage of that to implant better and your immune system may be agreeable a second time around.

You also mention in the heap o' testing your specialist wants to perform on you that diabetes is being suggested. I'm looking at diabetes, repeated pregnancy attempts, multiple IVF attempts, and an inability to lose weight. All of those, to me, point to an underlying health condition and I'm cheered by the idea that your specialist has ordered a pile of testing. Have you ever been diagnosed with PCOS (polycystic ovarian disease) or thyroid disease, or would you happen to know if either of those run in your family? Either or both of those diseases can present with an inability to lose weight, insulin resistance/diabetes, and trouble conceiving/maintaining a pregnancy. Investigating either of those possibilities could unify what seems to be a lot of disparate bits and answer pretty much everything at once.

While I know all of this is overwhelming, let me offer you this bit of reassurance: there is absolutely zip, zilch, zero, nada, and not a thing you did wrong to cause this. There is nothing you could have/would have/should have done, not done, done differently to cause this or to prevent it. It comes down to how well your immune system cooperates with the portion of the placenta that your partner codes for so that the placenta can tap into your blood supply/hormone supply/nutrient supply/ waste disposal system...basically all your stuff. Your immune system was being protective. It simply may have been a bit overeager in this instance. Again and again, this is not your fault.

To ultimately answer your question: we can't definitively say. We're strangers on the internet, not a specialist with your medical file in front of us. We do have the knowledge and experience, however, to point you to some possibilities that may very well make it happen. I won't say no, absolutely-but I'm also not saying yes, absolutely. It's possible, don't give up hope entirely yet.
Hello lovely community,
I have just joined this forum in my search to understand. I just lost my baby this monday to serious preeclampsia and we are devastated. This baby was very much wanted and after 3 IVFs we got this single one that stuck and we were so happy. I am overweight BMI 34(107kg) whilst on IVF treatments, went up to 37(111) at my week 15 weighin had gone up 4 kg total since getting pregnant. Not chronic hypertensive as far as i know but at 12 week BP was 145/85, doctor said it was because i was a "big woman".No proteins in urin. 2 days later BP was 130/85. 18+4 scan everything was fine and we got to know we were having a boy. Week 22 was at midwifes, BP was 150/95, P++ in urin, så was sent to the hospital. Scans showed baby was about 20 weeks and not 22 weeks, reverse bloodflow on scan and he was already moving less to conserve energy and this heart and brain were already struggling. started with Labetalol but BP was just getting high and protein urin tests getting higher, baby stopped moving completely 22+4, i was induced and my baby came out this monday 22+6 and placenta manually removed because it was stuck. i read it was torn and small. The placenta had been sent for pathological tests, i will take more bloodtests in about 8 weeks IgA, LUPUS, LEIDEN and some other tests i think, and we will talk to a spesialist who will talk us through all the tests taken and the results and our chances if we decide to try again. The only thing i can controll now is my weight, so i know i will have to try my best and loose some weight as soon as i can , apart from that i am clueless, we talked about preeclampsia with my doctor and my risks but i never thought it could start so early.
we also talked about diabetes, i was more afraid of the diabetes, i felt great throughout the pregnancy and didnt have a clue. pls help me get wiser, and will i ever be a mom after so serious preeclampsia so early in a pregnancy?? what tests are they talking about??

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Re: Lost my baby this monday. pls help me understand!!

Postby reneee » Mon Oct 31, 2016 05:46 pm

Thank you MomTimesThree for the reply. the placenta was sent for tests and i have to take more tests after 6 weeks but i also read that 50% of the time, theres no answer. i think thats what scares me the most. we will be talking to a specialist in December when all the test results come out. We pray we will be given the go ahead to try again
*'*Enok severe PE 22+6. born too early 24.10.16. So so sorry love wasn`t enough sweetheart.***

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Re: Lost my baby this monday. pls help me understand!!

Postby MomTimesThree » Mon Oct 31, 2016 08:17 am

Welcome. I am so very sorry for the loss of your little one. I know the pain of losing a child and the searching for answers. I'm guessing the tests they are referring to are looking for blood clotting disorders that are sometimes related to pre-eclampsia.

I will keep you in my thoughts- I know the pain and heartache these first days and weeks adjusting to this new normal.
Lauren
2008-Our Baby Girl, PTL born too early at 30w6d, Fought so hard... Forever Loved & Missed
2010- Lil' Bro, Pre-E at 29 weeks... Induced at 36w6d, Born 37w
2012- Lil' Sis, Super-imposed pre-e at 25 weeks, PTL & GD at 35 weeks, Evicted 36w

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Lost my baby this monday. pls help me understand!!

Postby reneee » Fri Oct 28, 2016 02:21 pm

Hello lovely community,
I have just joined this forum in my search to understand. I just lost my baby this monday to serious preeclampsia and we are devastated. This baby was very much wanted and after 3 IVFs we got this single one that stuck and we were so happy. I am overweight BMI 34(107kg) whilst on IVF treatments, went up to 37(111) at my week 15 weighin had gone up 4 kg total since getting pregnant. Not chronic hypertensive as far as i know but at 12 week BP was 145/85, doctor said it was because i was a "big woman".No proteins in urin. 2 days later BP was 130/85. 18+4 scan everything was fine and we got to know we were having a boy. Week 22 was at midwifes, BP was 150/95, P++ in urin, så was sent to the hospital. Scans showed baby was about 20 weeks and not 22 weeks, reverse bloodflow on scan and he was already moving less to conserve energy and this heart and brain were already struggling. started with Labetalol but BP was just getting high and protein urin tests getting higher, baby stopped moving completely 22+4, i was induced and my baby came out this monday 22+6 and placenta manually removed because it was stuck. i read it was torn and small. The placenta had been sent for pathological tests, i will take more bloodtests in about 8 weeks IgA, LUPUS, LEIDEN and some other tests i think, and we will talk to a spesialist who will talk us through all the tests taken and the results and our chances if we decide to try again. The only thing i can controll now is my weight, so i know i will have to try my best and loose some weight as soon as i can , apart from that i am clueless, we talked about preeclampsia with my doctor and my risks but i never thought it could start so early.
we also talked about diabetes, i was more afraid of the diabetes, i felt great throughout the pregnancy and didnt have a clue. pls help me get wiser, and will i ever be a mom after so serious preeclampsia so early in a pregnancy?? what tests are they talking about??
*'*Enok severe PE 22+6. born too early 24.10.16. So so sorry love wasn`t enough sweetheart.***


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